Friday, February 29, 2008

ARE THEY JUST DISTRACTIONS? OR WORSE

Continuing here with the mention I made to The Shack yesterday, I wanted to mention something from the chapter In The Belly of The Beast. In the book it is presented like this: The trinity of terrors...the systems of religion, politics, economics.

It seems many people are awakening to and breaking free from the controlling aspects that religion presents. I wonder if there is as much or any thinking going on about how we are controlled by the other two and how they effect us all.

It's been very interesting to me to find out that finding some freedom from the religious system (thinking and living) was easier than beginning to experience some freedom from the other two. Wonder why that is?

11 comments:

Todd said...

Kent,

This could turn into an interesting conversation...especially in light of the political climate right now here in the states as well as the buzz beginning about the economy beginning to be strictured....I'll be watching.

lots of love brother,

Todd

OKDiane said...

Could it be that in the religious way of thinking potitics and economics have more to do with our present situation than does God? Once we get to a certain point in our understanding of Father, Son and Holy Spirit and can begin to see politics and economics through that understanding then they start to lose their grip on us.

Rick Gibson said...

Hi Kent,
Was reading around the web and thought of you when I read a quote put up on a blog. The quote is out of 'The Zahir' by Paulo Coelho and can be found here. Could this guy be the Jaques Ellul of the heart?

Kent said...

Todd, this has been one of the most important things for me to ponder over the past few years and it has led to many very interesting helpful conversation.

Diane, what it exposed in me was that the majority of my life had been about self preservation...and paying lip service to the other life I had said I believed to be true yet hadn't ever lived as if it really were true.

Once I began to realize that religious obligation and performance had nothing to do with my spiritual well being (my acceptance into this relationship with Father Son and Spirit)the religious system just naturally lost it's ability to control and manipulate me. That was the beginning of a wonderful change. Once all of the garbage began to be removed from my thinking that had come with the fear that is a part of the religious system and I began to live in the reality of being safe and secure in this relationship with Father, the false promises(lies) that the political and economic systems use to control us began to be exposed and lose their grip on me.

But even with that exposure, shaking free of the control of the political and the economic has been proven to be a bit tougher. Out of those two, I feel pretty free today of the political. It has no ability to deliver on what it says is it's greatest reponsibility...to protect it's citizens. But history proves, most are all too willing to give their support to it because of this promise. We give up so much and it cannot make us safe and secure and all of humanity suffers greatly under this lie. Now that I am learning to live in the saftey and security of this realtionship with Father I can see through the hollow promises the government makes.

The fact that the economic one is so tied to necessity is why I think it is the hardest one to live free from. And I am coming to believe that maybe it's the only one total freedom from is not possible. So with that being where I am at today with it, my thoughts have turned to living as free of it as is possible.

Rick, I loved that story. Tell me a little more of what you meant by this that you said:

"Could this guy be the Jacques Ellul of the heart?"

Rick Gibson said...

May just be my perception, but I think of Ellul as helping us to recognize and break free from external Religous/Political/Economic systems. While this story was about breaking free of internal systems. Make sense?

Kent said...

That does make a lot of sense. I asked just to make sure what you were alluding to. I myself in my reading of Ellul see him speaking to all of it. External and internal. Have you ever read his article Belief and Faith? It speaks to the internal transformation. It is linked under The Bigger Picture on my blog if you have not and are interested.

OKDiane said...

Kent, I guess where I am is that just as there is a government of God that doesn't lord it over people there is an economy of God where people give what they have and get what they need. So I haven't given up politics or economics they've just been transformed.

I love the way these exchanges make me think things through.

Kent said...

Diane, I concur.

Kent said...

Wayne posted this on his blog today and the email he includes really does say it loud and clear.

As the freedom she speaks of happens in our heart and mind all this other stuff just fades into to the backround and I think will eventually disappear. And all we have left is love.

http://lifestream.org/blog/?p=528

Grateful Girl said...

This is interesting to me too! I think Kent that if our minds are opened, wouldn't it make sense that our loving Papa would want to finish the job so to speak? In so many ways world wide, religion and politics go hand in hand. So, to me, it's a natural progression to question everything.

I am no longer disappointed with government. Just see it for what it is.

I love your last comment that you posted from Wayne's blog. I can say that is true in my own life.. The other day I told Rog that the TC seems so far away from me now that mostly, I don't think about it. I know God's love. I know him in a way I never dreamed possible. Putting the blinders aside and taking a deep breath and looking around, He has shown me things that absolutely blow my mind....

Aren't we privileged to have a God who wants us to be free??? So contrary to anything I learned in the past...

Kent said...

Trish, I just think it is the progressive nature of freedom.